Why you should rip CDs to lossless audio formats

Ripping CDs to lossless audio formats

Ripping, the process of transferring music from CD to computer-based files, has been around for consumers for a good ten or fifteen years. Early on in the digital music revolution it was pretty much the only way to listen to music digitally. Later on came downloading music, either via online stores such as iTunes or via P2P (peer to peer) networks. More recently, streaming music from services such as Spotify or Grooveshark has become possible.

Yet ripping remains popular. Principally, ripping gives control over the digital music that is created from a CD. For instance, the quality of the resulting digital music file, and the format it is in, is up to you. The music purchased from online stores is typically below CD quality, but with control over the ripping process the CD quality can be retained. For such reasons, ripping remains useful particularly for the discerning audiophile, or just anyone who wants more control.

The most fundamental choice to make when ripping from CD is the format of the resulting digital music file. The audio format is the way the file is structured to contain the encoded digital music, metadata about the music, and even embedded cover art. Different formats encode the music in different ways and have different ways of storing the metadata. Normally, an indication of the format is communicated in the extension of the resulting music filename (although this is far from fool-proof). For instance:

01-Waterloo.mp3

The '.mp3' file extension means this is an MP3 file. Here are some examples of file formats and their related extension(s):

Format File extension
MP3 .mp3
AAC .m4a, .mp4, m4v, .aac
FLAC .flac
OGG Vorbis .ogg, .oga

All audio formats can be grouped by whether they are lossy or lossless. The word 'loss' refers to whether any data is lost in the transfer from CD to digital music file. In lossy formats, some data is lost, with the aim of reducing the music file size as much as possible. The resulting data is also, normally, compressed. Lossless does not lose data, although the data may still be compressed. The dichotomy between loss and compression is suprising to some, but loss is really about choosing what data is needed to represent the music faithfully, while compression is really just about storing that data in as small a space as possible.

  Lossy Lossless
Compressed MP3, OGG, AAC FLAC, Apple lossless
Uncompressed   WAV

Lossless is better. Here's why:

  1. Flexibility. This is the most important reason. Lossy music is a one-way street. Once the data is lost, it's lost, and there's no way of getting it back. This makes life difficult when, for instance, you purchase a new music player that plays different formats to those you've ripped to. With lossless, you can always convert.
  2. Better music quality. This one's arguable by some, that the differences between lossy music encoded at a high quality level and lossless is not audible. I have a feeling this depends on your listening equipment. For me, the evidence mounts that there is a difference, and I don't fancy re-ripping every track once I have a new hi-fi so I just rip to lossless and forget about it.

There are disadvantages...

  1. Player support. Lossless formats are less well supported in mobile MP3 players. For these, you may find yourself converting from FLAC to MP3.
  2. Disk space used. Typically, a FLAC file will use around three or four times the space of a high quality MP3 file.

I think these disadvantages are worth ripping to lossless, regardless. The inherent advantage of lossless is that you can convert to other formats, so player support is not a big problem. Secondly, storage is cheap and it's getting cheaper. 1TB drives, enough to store at least 3,000 albums in FLAC format, now cost around £40 ($64). That's just over 1p (a couple of cents) per album!

Ripping lossless - the way forward

The advantages of lossless audio formats outweigh the disadvantages. So where should you start?

I would suggest the format you choose is FLAC. It compresses music for smaller file sizes while retaining lossless quality and is well supported by various music playback systems. Use CDex or Winamp on Windows, Max on the Mac and abcde on Linux.

Ripping lossless is the best long term solution for CD ripping.

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23 Comments

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Frian s'meggs

I only rip to flac to increase my ratio on torrent sites. I have been listening to music since my teens with old jazz and blues records that had seen better days. Music is about the music to me, audiophiles are completely missing the point and I pity them as they probably obsess so much that it is impossible to enjoy any music, let alone when the latest "super quality" piece of equipment comes out and makes their 20k stereo system obsolete. Joke's on you, guys!

Dan Gravell

Totally agree that music is about the music. But I still think it important to rip to FLAC - if only for the principle that you are not throwing any data away. What if you purchase some higher quality equipment in the future?

Johnson

20k is a little over the line.  But I definitely enjoy music much more with a good pair of monitor speakers and a component system compared to $80 PC speakers.

If you are going to go the route of high quality audio, you need to have slightly better equip to enjoy it.  I personally enjoy my SACD player and Martin Logan Motion 12's powered my a Carver Pro amp (300 watts x 2 into 4 ohms).  Hearing Dyer Straights and Norah Jones sounds so much better with this setup, at only 10% of your $20k system.  I think the theory of diminishing returns is relevant here.

nukespoon

heh

dyer straights

hockkeah

"Music is about the music to me".... you are absolutely right!

King Abiyamalech

20k is 20k my friend IM AN AUDIOPHILE and know good quality what ever whether Earphones, Headphones, Amps, Dacs, Hi-res Players you name it, and when a good buck is spent with a highly reputable sound company it usually helps you A LONG LONG WAY.
Everything is by price try pairing any headphone against a 3k Abyss Diana if you don't believe me also instead of sweating flac's so much try a hand at DSD's.

mackal

Alternative Ripping software:
Windows: EAC http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
Mac OS X: XLD http://tmkk.pv.land.to/xld/...
Linux: RubyRipper http://code.google.com/p/ru...

If you want to hear the difference between  lossy and lossless music, checkout this web site:

https://sites.google.com/si... music samples available for download at different compression rates

King Abiyamalech

Cool will do!

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Riley MacDonald

Wow I'm really happy I found this site I thought nobody else did this. I have a few questions for my fellow rippers, first off the procedure I use is to rip my cd's to FLAC then convert them to ogg and finally to tag them with mp3tagger. It's lengthy but yields a product that meets my standards. I wonder though is there any point to ripping it as a FLAC only to convert it later? I imagined that the trickiest step would be in actually ripping the cd and that the least intensive and safest way to get a quality copy from the disc would be to grab it sort of raw as a FLAC and then go to work on it once it's on my hard drive. Does that make sense?
Second what do you think about the future of this hobby? It seems ludicrous that in order to acquire the highest quality sound audiophiles must resort to using archaic record players. When superior quality digital music does come out I imagine it will antiquate not only records but cd's as well. Aside from avoiding trackers and junk slapped onto the file, like itunes purchases are known for, what would keep this hobby viable other than for the sheer enjoyment of it?

Dan Gravell

There should be no difference, although the software you use to perform the rip and/or transcode (from FLAC to OGG) may be different, so theoretically you might end up with something different...

The advantage of ripping to FLAC first is that you have the FLAC in the future and you don't need to re-rip. Obviously if you delete the FLAC then that advantage is lost... Furthermore, if you tag the OGGs only, you then have a deviation of metadata, and if you were to lose your OGGs and were relying on the FLACs as backup, then it wouldn't be a complete backup.

What do you mean by superior quality digital music? You can already download 24-bit music from various places - HD Tracks et al.

I think enjoyment is enough!

Riley MacDonald

Thanks for the advice. This hobby has sort of lived in the dark and finding this page has shed some light and stimulated a lot of growth. I just tested a bunch of different quality tracks to find out that I can barely tell a difference between the most extreme. HD tracks is a technology I won't be concerning myself with. I am partially deaf in one of my ears so I wonder if others can tell though? Can you?

I was just wondering what your perspective was as far as viability. I have sunk too much life into this to let it go even if it was totally technologically irrelevant.

Dan Gravell

Sorry, viability of what?

I think audio quality is related to your equipment and listening environment. Probably not much point in ripping lossless if you listen with Apple earbuds on a noisy bus into work.

King Abiyamalech

Yes there is definitely a difference HDtracks.com as well as Acousticsounds.com has a sound quality nearly 4 to 6 times the bitrate of Apple's iTunes!!! It's DSD Direct Stream Digital and it's even pass Lossless!!

King Abiyamalech

Not true, HD Tracks requires subscription and they don't always have what your looking for especially at 24 bit and they're not the only lossless providing site there's also Acousticsounds.com

Gustav North

Have u ever heard about this website? https://www.lucidsamples.com
I am thinking about buying some soundpacks from them.

JAN HEDSTRÖM

I tried rip CDs to FLAC with high compression using EAC, but the sound quality was terrible during playback. Probably because of weak CPU on my laptop! MP3 was OK. Then I decided to use WAV format instead. WAV is no loss and no compression, sound quality is excellent. WAV will consume the same space on the HDD as on the CD but since disk is affordable nowadays I rather buy more disks than search for a new laptop that can playback FLAC good enough (it's a gamble anyway).

Dan

The trouble is that metadata support for WAV is poor. It's possible to tag WAV files but much software doesn't support those tags.

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